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By dclerici - Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:51 AM
Well another big name is gone. Reliance Trailer and Redwood Reliance Peterbilt is no more. Really big in the west as mfg'rs of end-dump trailers, super dumps, transfer units and lumber flats, filed for bankruptcy and not likely to pull out of it. Started in 1914 in S.F. making small trailers and pick-up conversions for Model T's, then mid 70's moved mfg and sales to Cotati,Ca, then 2003 moved production to Spokane and kept Cotati as an installation, service, and sales shop. In '98 they purchased Alloy Trailers (Spokane) and '02 purchased Sturdy-Weld (Lynwood, Wa).

Reliance is family owned and the Pete dealer part of it is now owned by another family member, renamed Northern California Peterbilt and moved up the road to Windsor. But the Reliance Trailer is a lost breed. I can remember a time that in this area whenever you wanted to buy a new end-dump or transfer, you wouldn't waste the time lookin' around, just drive to Cotati and get a Reliance.

Be interesting to see how much business Rogue and Wesco will pick up.

By Scott Waggoner - Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:10 AM
Sorry to hear that. We ran Reliance log trailers-pull type for many decades, very tough trailers. I guess we can always import some from overseas, oh- wait, I forgot that our dollar isn't worth much overseas.
By mikedean58 - Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:52 AM
What does this mean? I just got off the phone with Reliance in Spokane and ordered parts. They said this wasn't true.
By Aaron - Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:17 PM
Reliance is still going in Wash. last I heard that they closed Cotati only and still had parts availabilty at other types of dealerships. Some one else had asked for the Pete dealership, and PACCAR told them they didn't want a dealership there any longer, so maybe someone else did get it.
By John Costley - Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:40 PM
Here http://www.reliancetrailer.com/  John
By dclerici - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:02 AM
 From reading the local papers and talking to some of the guys that I work with that are from the Santa Rosa area and long time Reliance customers, it doesn't appear there's much hope.

Redwood Reliance was owned by Don Ling. Sometime ago he turned the company over to his son Brian. Don couldn't stay retired so he started Charter Truck Sales (late model used trucks) in Windsor. When Redwood Reliance bought Alloy they put it under the name of Reliance Trailers LLC (and later Sturdy-Weld came under this name).

In April Redwood Reliance and Reliance Trailers LLC filed for chapter 11 (reorganization/protection). One article said that Redwood Reliance had 3mil assets and 9mil debts. GE Capital is the main creditor. Don Ling took Redwood Reliance Peterbilt, moved it to his business in Windsor and now it's named Charter Peterbilt.

In October the bankruptcy court converted the Redwood Reliance case to chapter 7 (liquidation) which effectively shut down Cotati and Eureka. Reliance Trailers LLC in Spokane is operating under chapter 11 protection.

I guess that a while back they tried to sell off Redwood Reliance, but the creditor blocked the sale.

In the past few issues of CDTOA's (Ca. Dump Truck Owners Assoc) monthly mag Reliance didn't have any ads, whereas before you couldn't turn 4 pages without seeing a Reliance ad.

The Cotati shop had a lot of skill employed there, between the steel workers and the body guys. 

By Aaron - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:49 AM
Ahhh, now the rest of the story, thats too bad.
By roadranger - Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:00 PM
We've got 5 Reliance transfer dumps in the fleet I drive for, spanning 3 generations of product. Shop manager says he can still get parts out of Spokane - for now.

I believe Pioneer Sand is the only fleet in Colorado operating transfer dumps.
Customers are amazed when they see the loaded pup box transfer inside the empty truck box, then dump. Company loves them because they can ship a trailer sized load (~25 tons) yet deliver to very tight places that only a tandem (~15 tons) can get into.

The regular drivers dislike winter work with them - the pup doesn't track well in the snow/ice, and the snow/ice buildup on the pup from driving makes it difficult to make the transfer. Plus they have to get outside in sub zero weather and drop and hook that trailer tongue and run the box in and out.

Us end dump drivers don't have to leave the warm cab to deliver - electric tarp and air tailgate lock :P
By mikedean58 - Monday, January 04, 2010 3:15 PM
Called Reliance in spokane today for parts and as of close of today, no longer in business. We'll see what happens next.
By Stretch - Monday, January 04, 2010 5:47 PM
That's a real shame, they built a quality product.

There's going to be a lot of upset individuals who plunked down over $200K recently for one of those new
Super Dumps and now have no warranty(?), parts, or service. OUCH !
By Joe_Piazza - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:47 AM
Hi,

I am new to this forum.  I was trying to locate a surviving Reliance 450L log trailer.  I have been trying to create a kit of a West Side Lumber Peterbilt 354DT with a 450L trailer for several years.  I have plenty of info on the Pete's but have been stumped in regards to the Reliance trailers.  I do have photos from the 1950's which I have been working from but measuring an actual trailer would help validate all of my guessing.  Also, any info on the Reliance built headache racks of the period would also be appreciated.  The trucks that I have photos of were built in 1943, but I am also interested in those built in the 50's as well.

Any help would be appreciated.

Joe Piazza

Livermore, CA
By Joe_Piazza - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:08 AM
Hi,

One more question.  A friend of mine and I had been working with a fellow named Gus at Reliance.  He had access to the corporate archives and helped us out a great deal on our model kit research.  Does anyone know what will happen to all of the historical documentation?

Joe Piazza
By dashby - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:41 AM
Please post some pictures of your progress for this project.

Thanks,   Dean
By Joe_Piazza - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:01 AM
Hi,

Are you interested in images of the actual kit or prototype photos?  The kit will be in 1/87th scale and no masters have been created yet.  We have done CAD drawings, but cannot share these at this time.  I can post prototype photos to assist in showing the prototype I am trying to locate.

Thx,

Joe Piazza
By Joe_Piazza - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:29 AM
Attached is an image of what I am trying to create in the kit.
By Cozad Reliance - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:37 PM
Attention Old and New Reliance customers. No need to worry for your parts and service needs. Cozad Trailer Sales, LLC of Stockton, CA has purchased all of the assets of Reliance Trailer Sales, LLC out of Spokane, WA and Reliance Trailer, LLC. Trailer Manufacturing will resume shortly out of our Stockton location. Should you need any help with anything please call our office in Stockton, CA (209) 931-3095.
By Aaron - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:46 PM

 So did you gents pick up Gus while you were at it or has he gone on, he knew what he was doing there at Reliance, and did you gent happen to pick up the archived material they had, they had serial numbers and build sheets for trailers back to day one, I asked Gus for the specs on a 1945 step deck and a few days later he had a copy of the orginal pencil sketch to me.
By Flynpenguin - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 6:13 AM
Is Cozad under the same ownership as it was in the early to mid 90's?
By TruckerRick - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:40 AM
No. Cozad was bought by this guy in i believe 2000.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/tompistacchio

He has really taken it to new heights as far as i can tell.

Rick

"Keep on truckin"
By TEWHITEIV - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:32 AM
Joe_Piazza (5/12/2010)
Attached is an image of what I am trying to create in the kit.


Joe, do you have the videos put out by Tuolumne  and Catenary films on the railroad logging operations of the Pickering and Westside Lumber Companies?  They show some truck logging in color toward the end. 
By Stretch - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 6:12 PM
Cozad Reliance- I suspected that when I drove by Waterloo Rd. a couple of weeks ago and saw a couple of Reliance

transfer trailers outside.
By Cozad Reliance - Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:34 AM
Yes we did, we have all parts, computers, archived files, serial numbers and build sheets for trailers back to day one.
Most everything that was at the Reliance yard in Spokane, Washington is now in Stockton.
Come by and have a look.
Thanks

By newfie-trucker - Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:14 AM
well done and thanks for saving the records as some of our members have reliance and cozad trailers .. also some will want the parts and info on various trailers they own or find and are interested in
By Flynpenguin - Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:59 AM
[quote]TruckerRick (5/19/2010)
No. Cozad was bought by this guy in i believe 2001.


That's a good thing. I found the management in the early to mid 90's was difficult to deal with. Difficult enough that I sent my Cozad to Murray for parts and repairs.
By Cozad - Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:11 PM
Cozad® Trailer Sales, LLC, is pleased to announce the acquisition of “Reliance® Trailer Co.,” and “Reliance® Trailer Sales, LLC,” out of Spokane, Washington. Operations will be centrally located at Cozad’s manufacturing facility and dealership in Stockton, California.

 

This purchase will provide complete Northwest coverage of trailer parts, sales, and service.  Reliance’s excellent products match up favorably with Cozad’s operation.

 

Starting today, customers will be able to contact the Cozad® parts department for “Reliance®”, “Sturdy Weld®”, “Alloy®” and “Comet®” parts and service.  Manufacturing of new units has already begun.

 

If you would like to purchase parts please contact:
Steve Clark, Parts Manager who relocated from Reliance's Spokane location to Stockton, CA 


Monday through Friday 8:00 am - 5:00 pm

(209) 931-3000

 

Cozad, a leader in manufacturing the strongest, lightest & most maneuverable trailers in the world today. Since 1955, Cozad has been manufacturing trailers for the United States Military, Aerospace, Construction & the Transportation industries in US & abroad. Cozad® is well-known in the heavy haul, lowbed industry. We now look forward to extending our excellent high quality customer service to another section of the construction industry for parts and service, to all former customers of “Reliance® Trailer.” Our new automated 70x40foot burn table allows for unmatched precision.

 

Our customers after this acquisition will experience a one-stop shopping experience for all of their heavy-haul and construction trailer needs.

 

*We still have Dealership opportunities available in the States.

 

Welcome to America's new Trailer Company, the family of Cozad and Reliance Trailers.


Tom Pistacchio, President & CEO
America's Trailer Company®


COZAD®, Reliance® Transfers and Dumps, Sturdy~Weld® Super Dumps and Alloy® Chip Trailers
800-242-6023 Office


http://www.cozadtrailers.com

http://reliancetrailer.com