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Posted By mandator Tuesday, November 22, 2011 2:08 PM
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Great story Richard. Very difficult to find anyone with first hand experience with these anymore. As I have proceeded around the country with this, few if any people even know what it is. I keep hoping to find people like yourself with personal stories or even locate another truck like mine. This has been a labor of love project. Probably more important to me than most anyone else but never the less, there is one truck preserved. Thanks for the info.
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Very nice story. Thanks for posting it.

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I just happened to seeyour site when I was hunting for the history of the Beiderman Company.

One of yourcorrespondents asked if anyone had any detailed knowledge of the company. I donot, but here is my personal knowledge of the company, based on an 88 years oldmemory.

In 1945 my father wasthe superintendent of a wholesale grocery company in Xenia, Ohio, about 60miles north of Cincinnati. As such he was in charge of the fleet of deliverytrucks.

During World War II newtrucks were not available, but he needed to replace some very old trucks.Somehow he was able to find some old Beiderman delivery trucks. These trucksoriginally had solid rubber tires, but somewhere along the line had beenconverted to balloon tires. The windshield wipers ran off engine vacuum so whenyou accelerated they stopped working. They had a handle on them that you coulduse to manually operate them when this happened. The cab ceiling was wood lathecovered by canvas and the steering wheel was a large wooden affair.

My father made manytrips to the factory in Cincinnati during those war years to get replacementparts to keep them running. The entire staff knew him quite well and treatedhim like royalty. On several of thosetrips I accompanied him and always got the tour of their factory, which Ithought looked more like a early machine shop. On a couple of those trips myfather would drop off my mother and me at the railroad grand central station,which was a small town in itself. We would spend the entire day there visitingthe shops, restaurants and, as I recall a movie house. He would pick us up onhis way home.

As I recall, and Ithink this is correct, during the war they stopped making civilian trucks andmade Air Force crash and fire trucks. I remember seeing a single turret, fireengine red, truck being made.

In 1950, upongraduation from high school my father hired me as the fleet truck mechanicshelper. One of my first jobs was to cut up the retired Beiderman trucks byusing a cutting torch. I salvaged all the oak flooring from the beds of thetrucks and later used them to make furniture. Seventy years later I still haveone of the bunk beds I made from this oak.

Since Beidermandelivery trucks were no longer available after the war, he switched to DiamondD trucks which we picked up at the Chicago factory and drove back to Xenia.

I have always had afond remembrance of the Beiderman company.

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Some pics of John's truck from the Macungie show, photo credit Pat66, Stovebolter


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Useful post! I've found a lot of significant information about Biederman trucks.

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I was just looking for information on Biederman trucks and found this post.

Saw this exact truck and took some pics of it at Macungie on Friday.

There are 3 of it in this gallery:

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John has the Biederman loaded up and is headed up to Macungie PA today for the truck show this weekend.


This is the "tow" vehicle with Ian Watson, who is visiting from Melbourne Australia.


Anyone going to the Macungie show this weekend, stop by and check out the Biederman, a pretty rare truck..
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To finish off the running board skirts, some epoxy primer was brushed into the hem fold, given a couple days to cure, and then seam sealer added to keep out the moisture..





….then another dose of epoxy over the seam sealer, and everything primed.




I didn't get pictures of spraying the blue, so the finals will have to do. John is tying up the loose ends, the running board skirts were installed the other night.....




The dump body has been painted and he should get that installed today or tomorrow.


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And now for the fabrication details, John stopped by the shop last night so we could fit up the running board skirts on the Biederman.


I know he will be glad to close off this gaping hole.


After taking some measurements we got the top flange folded over using the magnetic brake. The flange will be bolted to the underside of the cab to support the weight as we will leave about a 1/4" or so gap above the running board to allow for frame flex.




Rivet Nuts installed under the cab...



The rubber edge trim is our attempt to keep the paint from rubbing off, and these are held in place using weatherstrip adhesive.


The dump bed had been painted over when John bought it, but closer inspection showed where some additional layers of paint in the hand painted lettering, "Phone 60" had staved off surface rust in it's previous life and was still visible...

Thursday, April 25, 2019 11:57 PM by MP&C

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